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sn*opy said: http://www.eurodressage.com/equestrian/2010/06/13/guenter-seidel-fractures-pelvis-riding-accident

M*lantheLLC said: Oh no. Wishing him a speedy and uncomplicated recovery.

l*slie645 said: jingles for gunther. So glad he was wearing a helmet.

dwbl*ver said: Oh how awful! So glad he is awake and talking with a great prognosis. Best wishes for healing!!

k*nnip said: WEG should be interesting this year.

C*rol O said: Jingles for a speedy and full recovery, Guenter!!!

G*stalt said: Oh how painful. Hoping he has a quick and FULL recovery. *jingles*

B*gey2 said: oh no, that's too bad!!! Heal quickly Guenter!

sm said: jingles!

M*rdi said: wow..that must have been quite a buck to get Guenter off !!

V*lvet said: That is awful. And the older we get, the longer it takes to heal--and you sometimes never get back to 100%. I hope he does! On a side note, I guess I've been away from the EuroDressage site for too long. They've updated their look and it's MUCH better!

*mericaRunsOnDunkin said: Oh nuts. Feel better soon Guenter!

dr*y said: Oh, I am so very sorry to hear this. God bless and jingles. America will miss him so much at WEG.

Th*HorseProblem said: If he hadn't been wearing a helmet, we would be reading a much different story. Guenter is extremely fit, and I'm sure he'll recover quickly!

L*mbie Boat said: anyone have a mailing address where we can send get well cards?

M*zart said: wow..that must have been quite a buck to get Guenter off !! That was my first thought too! I did not think it was possible! Here's hoping for a speedy recovery.

*quibrit said: Talented horse, but it really sucks for him. Wishing him a speedy and full recovery.

m*llerra said: Best wishes for a speedy recovery! That must be horribly depressing for him as a major setback!

nhwr said: wow..that must have been quite a buck to get Guenter off !!Sire: Jazz Serious injury with a long rehab ahead. Best of luck to Guenter.

B*gs-n-Frodo said: Jingles for a speedy recovery. That is a painful fracture... not that any fracture isn't painful. Come on dressage riders, let's stop getting hurt.

*clectic Horseman said: jingles for gunther. So glad he was wearing a helmet. A helmet does nothing to protect your pelvis. How soon before the criticism starts for not wearing an air vest (aka Point Two 'Pro-Air' Jacket.) :rolleyes:

c*ddym said: Maybe he should have been wearing a condom (sorry my Gynecologist's humor may be offensive to some) Seriously, that REALLY REALLY sucks. Whwn I was in medical school, I remember a young guy from Ireland who was here on a short vacation and got hit by a truck. I can't remember exactly what was broken, but he ended up in the hospital for a prolonged period of time. Sad for anyone, but this kid was completely alone with no family or friends. It would be great if there was an address to send cards.

m*llerra said: A helmet does nothing to protect your pelvis. : Thank you. I was going to add a comment about how every time my A-- ended up bruised, my helmet (and my head) never hit the ground... But I didn't want to start one of "those" threads. Again, best wishes to Guenter!

Th*HorseProblem said: A helmet does nothing to protect your pelvis. How soon before the criticism starts for not wearing an air vest (aka Point Two 'Pro-Air' Jacket.) :rolleyes: He was unconscious and does not remember being the helicopter ride to the hospital. Didn't you even read the article? By the way, yesterday a rider at my barn landed hard after a jump (I didn't see it) and the concussion caused the rider's vest to inflate, which spooked the horse, which bucked her off!

k*tarine said: Caddy, now THAT was funny. Terrible wreck- the trouble with being a great rider is you don't fall off randomly- you get flung to the ground with great vengance. And sometimes, furious anger. Think Samuel L Jackson, bucking your butt off ;) would be nice to know where to send condolences? Anyone know?

N*_Rider said: By the way, yesterday a rider at my barn landed hard after a jump (I didn't see it) and the concussion caused the rider's vest to inflate, which spooked the horse, which bucked her off! THIS is why I thought those vests sound like a bad idea....I could see this happening very easily!!! Hope Guenter recovers as quickly as possible!!

*clectic Horseman said: He was unconscious and does not remember being the helicopter ride to the hospital. Didn't you even read the article? Not only are you inventing unconciousness, but you even turned the ambulance into a helicopter!!!!! :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused: U.S Olympic team rider Guenter Seidel got injured in a riding accident this morning at Klaus Balkenhol's stable in Rosendahl, Germany. The American WEG team contender was thrown off a very fresh UII and fractured his pelvis. He successfully underwent surgery in the Munster University Hospital and will make a full recovery. Seidel arrived in Germany yesterday and was ready for his first ride on Dick and Jane Brown's UII, a 9-year old Dutch warmblood gelding by Jazz x Rohdiamant. The liver chestnut was very frisky and started bucking incessantly until Seidel, who was wearing a helmet, was launched from the saddle and crashed on the ground. An ambulance was immediately called to the scene and Seidel was transported to the local hospital. Several MRI and CT scans were made and a broken pelvis was the diagnosis. Guenter was then transported to the University Clinic in Münster where a specialized team of trauma surgeons, including Dr. Martin Langer and Dr. Michael Raschke, operated on him. The surgery was successful and though it will take time to heal Seidel will make a full recovery. Guenter, who is getting pain relief, is conscious and speaking. The 49-year old German born Seidel joined several American WEG squad riders in training and showing in Europe to gain more exposure to judging panels and top level competition. Seidel had scheduled to compete at the CDI Fritzens and CDIO Aachen leading up the U.S. WEG selection trials in Gladstone, NJ, in August. Unfortunately, this accident is a major set back for Seidel who will be unable to ride the team selection trials. We wish him a speedy recovery!

c*nyonoak said: From Robert Dover's website: << Dick and Jane Brown just sent out a message letting everyone know they can send “Get Well” cards to: Guenter Seidel, c/o Klaus Balkenhol, Hoven 92, 48720 Rosendahl, Germany

k*tarine said: He was unconscious and does not remember being the helicopter ride to the hospital. Didn't you even read the article? By the way, yesterday a rider at my barn landed hard after a jump (I didn't see it) and the concussion caused the rider's vest to inflate, which spooked the horse, which bucked her off! I'm sorry but this is so funny to me. Details, people. Keep it up, though, and by the end of the day this thread well be jingles for someone else entirely who slipped on a banana peel and was taken by airboat to the island.

G*o said: Not only are you inventing unconciousness, but you even turned the ambulance into a helicopter!!!!! :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused: Uh, how about not relying on just one news source? http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=6868 Some snippets: Jane Brown, who with her husband, Dick, owns U II and has been a supporter of Guenter for 22 years, said that she spoke to the German-born rider after he came out of surgery and “did not know what had happened. It was his first helicopter ride and he didn’t remember anything about it.” “He did have on his helmet which he does all the time,” Jane said. “It’s a good thing because the way he fell it he had not been wearing a helmet it could have been critical.” While the prognosis was good, there was no indication when Guenter would be able to leave the hospital. At this stage, Jane said, the plan is for Guenter to remain in Germany and watch Klaus training U II. I'm guessing the "all the time" helmet wear may be referring to the past few months since Courtney's accident. In any case, I'm relieved that he was wearing a helmet and wish him a speedy and uncomplicated recovery. Poor guy - with the seat he has, it definitely must have been one helluva buck to get him off!

N*_Rider said: http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=6868 Thank you for the link :).

*clectic Horseman said: [quote=Goo;4923777]Uh, how about not relying on just one news source? http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=6868 [quote] Was discussing the article posted by the OP. Obviously one of the news sources got it wrong.

WBL*ver said: No, a helmet does not protect your pelvis, arms, or legs. But quite frankly I'd rather one of those things get injured rather than my head being cracked open=instant death or brain damage. I've injured both my lower back AND head in the same fall, and let me tell you, even if you land arse first, your head can snap to the ground pretty hard right after! I've briefly blacked out, had blurred vision, and seen stars even WITH my helmet on and it wasn't my head that landed first. Jingles to Guenter, and I don't think there's anything at all wrong with mentioning that he was wearing a helmet. They mention all the time in car crashes if someone was wearing a seat belt or not, and it's just to ENCOURAGE the use of such safety measures. It's not meant to get anyone's panties in a wad who DOESN'T wear one!

c*ddym said: From Robert Dover's website: << Dick and Jane Brown just sent out a message letting everyone know they can send “Get Well” cards to: Guenter Seidel, c/o Klaus Balkenhol, Hoven 92, 48720 Rosendahl, Germany Thanks!

*rabiansrock said: [QUOTE=caddym;4923594]Maybe he should have been wearing a condom (sorry my Gynecologist's humor may be offensive to some) QUOTE] Some sort of medieval chastity belt might have offered more support though! :winkgrin:

G*o said: Was discussing the article posted by the OP. Obviously one of the news sources got it wrong. Or perhaps not. The Eurodressage article states An ambulance was immediately called to the scene and Seidel was transported to the local hospital. Several MRI and CT scans were made and a broken pelvis was the diagnosis. Guenter was then transported to the University Clinic in Münster where a specialized team of trauma surgeons, including Dr. Martin Langer and Dr. Michael Raschke, operated on him. I'd venture a guess that the ambulance took him to the local hospital, and then later on the helicopter transported him to the special clinic in Munster. Just didn't see the need for finger pointing and claims of fabrication. Carry on...

sn*opy said: Honestly...here we have one of our own in hospital, with a serious injury and some here are having a pissing contest over his method of transport. Get a scratching post and a plate of milk.

S*bine said: "At this stage, Jane said, the plan is for Guenter to remain in Germany and watch Klaus training U II. " now...I am scared for Klaus- since UII has a reputation of being a tough bucking horse...and Klaus is not a spring chicken anymore. Hope poor Guenther recovers quickly and without issues or constant pain...he's such a nice rider and in my mind the only one where I would have said- no way can any horse get him off....live and learn...

sn*opy said: Not only are you inventing unconciousness, but you even turned the ambulance into a helicopter!!!!! :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused: U.S Olympic team rider Guenter Seidel got injured in a riding accident this morning at Klaus Balkenhol's stable in Rosendahl, Germany. The American WEG team contender was thrown off a very fresh UII and fractured his pelvis. He successfully underwent surgery in the Munster University Hospital and will make a full recovery. Seidel arrived in Germany yesterday and was ready for his first ride on Dick and Jane Brown's UII, a 9-year old Dutch warmblood gelding by Jazz x Rohdiamant. The liver chestnut was very frisky and started bucking incessantly until Seidel, who was wearing a helmet, was launched from the saddle and crashed on the ground. An ambulance was immediately called to the scene and Seidel was transported to the local hospital. Several MRI and CT scans were made and a broken pelvis was the diagnosis. Guenter was then transported to the University Clinic in Münster where a specialized team of trauma surgeons, including Dr. Martin Langer and Dr. Michael Raschke, operated on him. The surgery was successful and though it will take time to heal Seidel will make a full recovery. Guenter, who is getting pain relief, is conscious and speaking. The 49-year old German born Seidel joined several American WEG squad riders in training and showing in Europe to gain more exposure to judging panels and top level competition. Seidel had scheduled to compete at the CDI Fritzens and CDIO Aachen leading up the U.S. WEG selection trials in Gladstone, NJ, in August. Unfortunately, this accident is a major set back for Seidel who will be unable to ride the team selection trials. We wish him a speedy recovery! I would think that astrid would not take kindly to your lifting her full text, which she owns.

G*o said: now...I am scared for Klaus- since UII has a reputation of being a tough bucking horse...and Klaus is not a spring chicken anymore. Hope poor Guenther recovers quickly and without issues or constant pain...he's such a nice rider and in my mind the only one where I would have said- no way can any horse get him off....live and learn... Agreed. :( Shocking to imagine any horse could actually get him off, and from what I've heard, recovery from a broken pelvis can be extremely painful because it's so hard to find a position that gives one 'relief' from pressure or movement of the pelvis. Poor guy, I hope he heals well.

M*rdi said: "At this stage, Jane said, the plan is for Guenter to remain in Germany and watch Klaus training U II. " now...I am scared for Klaus- since UII has a reputation of being a tough bucking horse...and Klaus is not a spring chicken anymore. LOL...Jane said G. was going to watch Klaus TRAIN U II, not RIDE him.

*sdressage said: Jingles for Guenter. I'm glad his prognosis is a full recovery, but it sure isn't going to be a fun journey while he heals. :no:

S*bine said: actually- the site I would recommend beyond the sites quoted here is this one: http://doversworld.com/ I somehow feel that he knows the truth better- he's been a close friend for a long time and he's a horseman that knows about this horse.... Sad story!!

R*ynard Ridge said: Best wishes and as speedy and uneventful a recovery as possible.

l*bgrrl said: Oh dear!! Guenter was my old "boss" a millennium or so ago, back when he was at Michelle Thornton's in Del Mar. He won't remember me (I was the office girl) -- but I certainly wish him a speedy recovery!

T*mex said: Good grief, when will some of you just learn to play nice? Can't even wish the guy well without somebody trying to sharpen their claws on somebody else. Give it a rest, already. Best wishes to Guenter, hope he recovers quickly!

*akstable said: If the horse wants a rider off, it can be really hard to stay on. I watched a cowboy on my hot mare, and he annoyed her to the point, she said enough, and started bucking. He was in a Western saddle and is a very good rider, but he decided to bail rather than risk both of them falling. I happened to be videoing. He got back on and rode her for a few minutes. She was fine. The cowboy is used to riding docile QH and not red headed WB mares ... So who will be riding Guenter's gelding now?

Tr*velyan96 said: Best wishes for a speedy and full recovery for Guenter. That's a nasty injury even for a youngster, but thankfully he's fit and strong, which will go a long way in aiding his recovery. Doesn't it seem as though today's dressage horses are becoming more and more of a handful? That sounds like one really serious bucking issue. One wonders if its breeding or is there something else going on. I have heard that Jazz offspring can be 'tough'.

Tr*velyan96 said: Best wishes for a speedy and full recovery for Guenter. That's a nasty injury even for a youngster, but thankfully he's fit and strong, which will go a long way in aiding his recovery. Doesn't it seem as though today's dressage horses are becoming more and more of a handful? I know they all have their moments., but that sounds like one really serious bucking issue.

k*thyagnew said: OH NO! What a shame - I love watching him. Jingles for Guenter - speedy recovery!

*rizona DQ said: From what I read in the write up on Doversworld, Guenter was mounting when the horse took off bucking, so I wonder if he was even fully in the saddle? My girlfriend broke her hip when her horse took off while she was mounting him......:no: Jingles for Guenter.

Dr*ssage Art said: Best wishes to Guenter, hope he recovers quickly! For every rider, there is a horse who can buck him/her off. No matter is it Olympic rider of a green beginner. It's unfortunately what happened to Courtney and to Guenter and to many other horse riders. Unpredictable and unexplainable accidents do happen with nobody to blame! Every long time rider has his/her share of falls and broken bones. And most do forgive horses who caused them that pain and most do get back in to the saddle b/c of love for horse riding. Hope to see Guenter ride soon!

mtng*rl said: Ouch! Jingles for Guenter.I totally sympathize as to the discomfort. Here's hoping he has a complete and uneventful recovery! Keeping my fingers crossed that he didn't tear a bunch of muscles along with it. I tore my right groin muscle when I cracked my pelvis years ago. After 6 weeks, the pelvis was healed and wasn't giving me any problems. Took 9 months for the groin muscle, :no: and even now, 13 years later, it still gives me some problems. Healing vibes your way Guenter!

Tr*eGrit said: As a rider who is also recovering from a fractured pelvis due to a freak fall from my horse, I wish Guenter an uncomplicated and timely recovery. From reading Robert Dover's report (thank you, Robert!), it appears that Guenter sustained a very serious pelvic fracture, since his required surgery and a plate to repair, and the vast majority of pelvic fractures, like mine, do not. How very unfortunate for him. This a very painful type of fracture, and has its own subset of potential complications. His punctured lung is no walk in the park, either. :sadsmile: He has a long road ahead, and I am sending my very best wishes and prayers for a full recovery and the best of care during this ordeal.